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« Απάντηση #167 στις: Οκτώβριος 08, 2014, 18:59:42 μμ »
Είσαι μερακλής φίλε!
Μερικές πρόχειρες, ελπίζω να σας αρέσουν :-\
(Κάντε κλικ εδώ να εμφανιστεί η φωτογραφία.)
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φιλε frogman μιπως μπορεις να μου δωσεις καμια πληροφορια για το 2ο με το μαυρο καντραν και να υπαρχει περιπτωση να το βρω στην Ευρωπη και με τι τιμη περιπου?
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« Απάντηση #168 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 19:30:49 μμ »
Three Kings of Grand Seiko



4420-9000 & 44GS L.E



Taro Tanaka, Seiko's first hired graduate of a College Design Program came up with design rules which eventually came to be known as the "Grammar of Design" at Seiko. He wanted Seiko watches to sparkle brilliantly when on display and without any distortions.

1. Perfectly flat surfaces and angles for cases, dials, hands, indexes
2. Two Dimensional faceted curves for the bezel
3. All distortion should be eliminated from the dial, hands, indexes and case, the finishing of the dial and case should be a mirror finish so it shines and sparkles
4. No more round cases, a unique case design

And which watch would be lucky enough to be the first to get the "Grammar of Design" treatment? The 44GS :-) (4420-9000) in 1967.



Only Grand and King Seiko's benefited from this as the new case design required very expensive and labour intensive polishing and finishing. This is what makes the 44GS so special along with it being the first Grand Seiko made by the Daini (now Seiko Instruments Shizukuishi) factory and the first time the GS logo appeared at 6.

The 44GS L.E brings all those special features back to us in 2013 and impeccable Zaratsu finishing in every way.









4520-8000 and Neuchatel & Geneva Observatory Competition


Neuchatel Observatory


Geneva Observatory

Therefore entering into accuracy trials held by different Observatories in Switzerland was inevitable for Grand Seiko and both manufactures of Daini and Suwa would compete to outdo each other with the ultimate goal of being the first group under the Grand Seiko banner that created the most accurate watches in the world.

As per KIH's excellent article the "Grand Seiko VFA Story" regarding Grand Seiko's participation in the Accuracy Observatory Trials at Neuchatel and in 1968 in Geneva:

1964
Daini: Zero example evaluated*, Best of the submitted examples - 153th, award none
Suwa: Zero example evaluated, Best of the submitted examples 144th, award none
(Top: Zenith, Series (total of the best three examples) Top: Omega, Second: Omega)

1965
Daini: 2 examples evaluated, Best of the submitted examples - 124th, award Series 6th
Suwa: 1 example evaluated, Best of the submitted examples 125th, award none
(Top: Zenith, Series (total of the best three examples) Top: Zenith, Second: Omega)

1966
Daini: 23 examples evaluated, Best of the submitted examples - 9th , award Series 3rd
Suwa: 9 examples evaluated, Best of the submitted examples 104th, award Series 6th
(Top: Zenith, Series (total of the best three examples) Top: Omega, Second: Omega)

1967
Daini: 36 examples evaluated, Best of the submitted examples - 4th , award Series 2nd
Suwa: 26 examples evaluated, Best of the submitted examples 12th, award Series 3rd
(Top: Omega, Series (total of the best three examples) Top: Omega, Second: Daini SEIKO)
(*"evaluated" means the score was within 20th place (there were many same score examples).

1968
After Suwa submitted its competition examples, Neuchatel declared on 26th April, 198 that the Competition would be suspended (later it was announced that the SEIKO examples dominated the Competition by taking 2nd, and 4th to 8th places). So both SEIKO teams submitted to Geneva Observatory instead. Best of the submitted examples came 4th (1st to 3rd were quartz movements), in fact from 4th to 10th were all SEIKO, which means that SEIKO movements dominated from the Top to 7th place in the mechanical watch movement division. Total wrist watch division of course, 1st place.
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In just 4 years Seiko Suwa managed to move from 144th to 1st place. An astonishing feat by any standard.

Daini went on to further improve its movements and had 73 Cal. 4520 movements and 153 Cal. 4580 movements Certified by the Neuchatel Observatory which issued "Observatoire Astronomique et Chronometrique Bulletin de Marche" Certificates for each movement over the period from 1968 to 1970. Thereafter 73 of the Cal. 4520 movements were cased in Yellow Gold Cases known as the Seiko Astronomical Observatory and sold to the public in 1970 then for just USD 1,800 each.







Although a Period relevant design for me personally it is not to my taste and I much prefer the "Grammer of Design" inspired case of the 44GS and this is where the Grand Seiko 4520-8000 shines. The 4520-8000, made by Daini in 1968/69 has the same Calibre as in the Yellow Gold Seiko Astronomical Observatory watches with the pedigree of the award winning movements of the Neuchatel and Geneva Observatory trials. Making the 4520-8000 an important and very special model from Grand Seiko.















6186-8000 VFA (Very Finely Adjusted in Six Positions) & God of Adjustment



The Grand Seiko team at Suwa didn't stop in 1968 and say ok guys we've beaten the Swiss and now we should just chillax and take it easy but they kept pushing even further. It was to be the last Hurrah and the best Mechanical watch ever made by Grand Seiko and by the best engineers and craftsmen they had.





















This is what makes the VFA so special. It reminds me that it's never over, even when you've achieved everything, you keep on persevering to be better.

What makes this particular VFA even more special is that it has been adjusted by a Master Watchmaker and Technician known in Japan as "God of Adjustment".



Mr. Akira Ohira was part of the team that restarted the Grand Seiko brand in 1997/98 and was responsible for assembling and adjustment of all the Grand Seiko pieces. When the VFA was sold in the early 1970s it was advertised to have an accuracy of +-3 seconds per day. I had the watch checked out by my watchmaker who is Swiss Trained by AP and JLC. He was very sceptical when I handed the VFA over to check out even though I told him the history of the watch and about Mr. Ohira. A week later he gave me the watch back saying the VFA astounded him and his colleagues. He couldn't believe it had a mean accuracy of + 1 second per day! He thought there was something wrong with his instrument so repeated the test on three different machines :-), a testament to amazing movement of the VFA and to the God of Adjustment to bring this level of performance out of a 41 year old watch.

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Special Thanks, Credit and Picture Sources: KIH "Grand Seiko VFA Story" and Others, SJX, Ninja01 and Dr Seiko, A Journey in Time: The Remarkable Story of Seiko, Google Images

(http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6614880&rid=0)
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« Απάντηση #169 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 19:42:47 μμ »
τελειο ποστ! διαβαζα παλιοτερα τετοια πραγματα και για τα vfa ειχα μεινει λαλακας.ρεσπεκτ στους ιαπωνες απλα!
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« Απάντηση #170 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 19:46:11 μμ »
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« Απάντηση #171 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 19:49:54 μμ »
Έχεις κέφια ,σήμερα
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« Απάντηση #172 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 19:50:41 μμ »
History of Grand Seiko

1960: Grand Seiko was born. The first Grand Seiko model was produced in Suwa Seikosha in Nagano prefecture in central Japan.

1964: A second-generation model was launched, with a calendar function and with water resistance increased to 50 meters.

1967:
[ 44GS ]
Daini Seikosha (now Seiko Instruments) produced its first Grand Seiko watch. It was the first model to embody the exterior design concept of 'Grand Seiko Style' which endures to this day.

[ 62GS ]
The first Grand Seiko self-winding model.

1968:
[ 61GS ]
The first Grand Seiko automatic winding 10 beat model. This 10 beat caliber provided superior isochronism, and a high level of precision that made it more resistant to changes in position and external impact. The winding mechanism used SEIKO's original Magic Lever mechanism. 6IGS was the first hi-beat caliber ever made in Japan.

[ 45GS ]
A manual 10-beat model, featuring a slimmer movement, Like the automatic 61GS, it delivered a higher level of precision that made it more stable in different usage situations. The date calendar featured an instant-change mechanism.

[ 19GS ]
The first Grand Seiko watch for women. It had a 10 beat, high precision movement. It may have been the first 10 beat women's watch in the world.

1969: V.F.A. stands for "Very Fine Adjusted." This super high precision model sought to explore the farthest limits of accuracy in a mechanical watch. It delivered a monthly rate of ± one minute or less (61GS VFA & 45GS VFA).

1970 :
[ 56GS ]
After accuracy, size reduction was the next challenge for Grand Seiko. This caliber was automatic winding and although just 4.5mm deep, it retained the high precision of its predecessors. Thinness was not just an engineer's challenge. "Easy to wear" was part of the "Best Basic" concept and this slimmer watch sat more easily on the wrist.

[ 61GS ]
The Grand Seiko Special aimed for a yet higher standard of precision, more exacting even than the GS standard of the time.

1972 : Aiming for the highest possible precision in women's mechanical watches, this model delivered a monthly accuracy rate of ± two minutes (19GS VFA).

1988 : The first "Grand Seiko" quartz watch. It delivered accuracy of 10 seconds per year, 25 times higher than other regular quartz movements (95GS).

1992 : A Grand Seiko quartz watch for women, also with 10 second-a-year accuracy (3FGS).

1993 : 'Quartz that surpasses quartz.' Pushing back the boundaries again, this quartz model set new standards of precision by incorporating systems like the 'backlash auto-adjust mechanism,' which had never before been achieved in a conventional quartz watch, a twin-pulse quartz mechanism and an instant calendar change mechanism (9F8 Series).

1998 : The first new Grand Seiko mechanical caliber in twenty years. It set a new standard, with cutting-edge production technology making possible a new interpretation of the traditional values of Grand Seiko (9S5 Series).

2002 : For the first time in Grand Seiko history, this watch featured a fourth hand, showing GMT (9S56 Series).

2003 : The launch of a quartz anti-magnetic watch, with 40,000A/m, a level of anti-magnetic protection that far exceeded all watchmaking norms (Anti-Magnetic Series).

2004 : The new and unique Spring Drive caliber is added to Grand Seiko. It delivers an accuracy rate of ±1 second a day (9R6 Series).

2006 : A Mechanical caliber, delivering a long power reserve of 72 hours, is added (9S67 Series).

2007 : The first Spring Drive Chronograph in Grand Seiko (9R8 Series).

2009 : An automatic winding 10 beat movement, developed for Grand Seiko, the first in 41 years. The main spring and balance spring are made from the new, SEIKO-created, alloys SPRON 530 and 610 respectively (9S8 Series).

2010 : A new automatic caliber with a power reserve of 3 days.
Additionally, this model used the newest materials for its balance spring and escapement, improving the stability of its precision during actual use (9S65 Series).
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« Απάντηση #173 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:35:41 μμ »
Όσο τα βλέπω τόσο θέλω να πάρω ένα!
Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχουν πουθενά τα Grand Seiko ε? Για να το έβλεπα από κοντά...

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Στάλθηκε από το Πι-Σι μου χρησιμοποιώντας... πληκτρολόγιο.

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« Απάντηση #174 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:36:45 μμ »
Όσο τα βλέπω τόσο θέλω να πάρω ένα!
Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχουν πουθενά τα Grand Seiko ε? Για να το έβλεπα από κοντά...

Παναγιώτης
Το πιο κοντινό μέρος που μπορείς να τα βρεις, είναι το Παρίσι.

Και εγω θελω σαν τρελος να δω GS!
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« Απάντηση #175 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:46:38 μμ »
Όσο τα βλέπω τόσο θέλω να πάρω ένα!
Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχουν πουθενά τα Grand Seiko ε? Για να το έβλεπα από κοντά...

Παναγιώτης
Το πιο κοντινό μέρος που μπορείς να τα βρεις, είναι το Παρίσι.

Και εγω θελω σαν τρελος να δω GS!

τί φόρουμ ρολογιών είμαστε; Μόνο κληρώσεις ξέρουμε να κάνουμε!
Ας κάνουμε και μια εκδρομή στο Παρίσι στη boutique
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« Απάντηση #176 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:48:24 μμ »
Θα το'χαμε οργανωσει αλλα είναι επικινδυνα μωρε αυτην την εποχη. 8)
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« Απάντηση #177 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:50:28 μμ »
Θα το'χαμε οργανωσει αλλα είναι επικινδυνα μωρε αυτην την εποχη. 8)

γιατί;
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« Απάντηση #178 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:52:43 μμ »
Δεν εχεις δει τι γινεται στο Παρίσι?
Δεν ειμαστε για να μπλεκουμε τώρα.....
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« Απάντηση #179 στις: Ιανουάριος 21, 2015, 22:54:21 μμ »
Δεν εχεις δει τι γινεται στο Παρίσι?
Δεν ειμαστε για να μπλεκουμε τώρα.....

απάτη seikάκιας είσαι!!
Ούτε μια θυσία για τον Ιάπωνα δεν κάνεις!
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