Στάλθηκε από: Blackbird
« στις: Απρίλιος 13, 2012, 09:42:43 πμ »lysanderxiii, Isthmus:
That is not part of the specification. Another piece of misinformation.
That is not part of the specification. Another piece of misinformation.
Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Απρίλιος 10, 2012, 17:24:57 μμ »Στάλθηκε από: Alobar
« στις: Μάρτιος 06, 2012, 19:30:29 μμ »Ναι το ξέρω... 
ευχαριστούμε για το ποστάρισμα...έτσι κι αλλιώς!!!
ευχαριστούμε για το ποστάρισμα...έτσι κι αλλιώς!!!Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Μάρτιος 06, 2012, 19:15:02 μμ »Πολύ καλό george_!!!(Κάντε κλικ εδώ να εμφανιστεί η φωτογραφία.)
ευχαριστω,αλλα δεν το εγραψα εγω..
Στάλθηκε από: Alobar
« στις: Μάρτιος 06, 2012, 19:03:47 μμ »Πολύ καλό george_!!!
Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Μάρτιος 06, 2012, 10:21:53 πμ » ISO 6425 Water-Resistant Standards
ISO 6425 water resistance testing of a diver's watch consists of:
*Reliability under water. The watches under test shall be immersed in water to a depth of 30 cm ± 2 cm for 50 hours at 18 °C to 25 °C and all the mechanisms shall still function correctly. The condensation test shall be carried out before and after this test to ensure that the result is related to the above test.
*Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature of 18 °C to 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
*Resistance of crowns and other setting devices to an external force. The watches under test shall be subjected to an overpressure in water of 125% of the rated pressure/10 bar for 10 minutes and to an external force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any). The condensation test shall be carried out before and after this test to ensure that the result is related to the above test.
*Water-tightness and resistance at a water overpressure. The watches under test shall be immersed in water contained in a suitable vessel. Then an overpressure of 125% of the rated pressure shall be applied within 1 minute and maintained for 2 hours. Subsequently the overpressure shall be reduced to 0.3 bar within 1 minute and maintained at this pressure for 1 hour. The watches shall then be removed from the water and dried with a rag. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
*Resistance to thermal shock. Immersion of the watch in 30 cm ± 2 cm of water at the following temperatures for 10 minutes each, 40 °C, 5 °C and 40 °C again. The time of transition from one immersion to the other shall not exceed 1 min. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
*An optional test originating from the ISO 2281 tests (but not required for obtaining ISO 6425 approval) is exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 6425 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 6425 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2. The required 125% test pressure provides a safety margin against dynamic pressure increase events, water density variations (seawater is 2 to 5% denser than freshwater) and degradation of the seals.
Movement induced dynamic pressure increase is sometimes the subject of urban myths and marketing arguments for diver's watches with high water resistance ratings. When a diver makes a fast swimming movement of 10 m/s (32.8 ft/s) (the best competitive swimmers and finswimmers do not move their hands nor swim that fast[1]) physics dictates that the diver generates a dynamic pressure of 0.5 bar or the equivalent of 5 meters of additional water depth.[2]
Besides water resistance standards to a minimum of 100 metres (330 ft) depth rating ISO 6425 also provides minimum requirements for mechanical diver's watches (quartz and digital watches have slightly differing readability requirements) such as:[3]
*The presence of a time-preselecting device, for example a unidirectional rotating bezel or a digital display. Such a device shall be protected against inadvertent rotation or wrong manipulation. If it is a rotating bezel, it shall have a minute scale going up to 60 min. The markings indicating every 5 min shall be clearly indicated.
The markings on the dial, if existing, shall be coordinated with those of the preselecting device and shall be clearly visible. If the preselecting device is a digital display, it shall be clearly visible.
The following items of the watch shall be legible at a distance of 25 cm (9.8 in) in the dark:
*time (the minute hand shall be clearly distinguishable from the hour hand); set time of the time-preselecting device;
*indication that the watch is running (This is usually indicated by a running second hand with a luminous tip or tail.);
*in the case of battery-powered watches, a battery end-of-life indication.
*The presence of an indication that the watch is running in total darkness. This is usually indicated by a running second hand with a luminous tip or tail.
*Magnetic resistance. This is tested by 3 expositions to a direct current magnetic field of 4,800 A/m. The watch must keep its accuracy to +/- 30 seconds/day as measured before the test despite the magnetic field.
*Shock resistance. This is tested by two shocks (one on the 9 o'clock side, and one to the crystal and perpendicular to the face). The shock is usually delivered by a hard plastic hammer mounted as a pendulum, so as to deliver a measured amount of energy, specifically, a 3 kg hammer with an impact velocity of 4.43 m/s. The change in rate allowed is +/- 60 seconds/day.
*Resistance to salty water. The watches under test shall be put in a 30 g/l NaCl (sodium chloride) solution and kept there for 24 hours at 18 °C to 25 °C. This test water solution has salinity comparable to normal seawater. After this test, the case and accessories shall be examined for any possible changes. Moving parts, particularly the rotating bezel, shall be checked for correct functioning.
*Resistance of attachments to an external force (strap/band solidity). This is tested by applying a force of 200 N (45 lbf) to each springbar (or attaching point) in opposite directions with no damage to the watch of attachment point. The bracelet of the watch being tested shall be closed.
*Marking. Watches conforming to ISO 6425 are marked with the word DIVER’S WATCH L M or DIVER'S L M to distinguish diving watches from look a like watches that are not suitable for actual scuba diving. The letter L indicates the diving depth, in metres, guaranteed by the manufacturer.
Diver’s watches for mixed-gas diving:
http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/general-discussion-forum/41441.htm
ISO 6425 water resistance testing of a diver's watch consists of:
*Reliability under water. The watches under test shall be immersed in water to a depth of 30 cm ± 2 cm for 50 hours at 18 °C to 25 °C and all the mechanisms shall still function correctly. The condensation test shall be carried out before and after this test to ensure that the result is related to the above test.
*Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature of 18 °C to 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
*Resistance of crowns and other setting devices to an external force. The watches under test shall be subjected to an overpressure in water of 125% of the rated pressure/10 bar for 10 minutes and to an external force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any). The condensation test shall be carried out before and after this test to ensure that the result is related to the above test.
*Water-tightness and resistance at a water overpressure. The watches under test shall be immersed in water contained in a suitable vessel. Then an overpressure of 125% of the rated pressure shall be applied within 1 minute and maintained for 2 hours. Subsequently the overpressure shall be reduced to 0.3 bar within 1 minute and maintained at this pressure for 1 hour. The watches shall then be removed from the water and dried with a rag. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
*Resistance to thermal shock. Immersion of the watch in 30 cm ± 2 cm of water at the following temperatures for 10 minutes each, 40 °C, 5 °C and 40 °C again. The time of transition from one immersion to the other shall not exceed 1 min. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
*An optional test originating from the ISO 2281 tests (but not required for obtaining ISO 6425 approval) is exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 6425 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 6425 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2. The required 125% test pressure provides a safety margin against dynamic pressure increase events, water density variations (seawater is 2 to 5% denser than freshwater) and degradation of the seals.
Movement induced dynamic pressure increase is sometimes the subject of urban myths and marketing arguments for diver's watches with high water resistance ratings. When a diver makes a fast swimming movement of 10 m/s (32.8 ft/s) (the best competitive swimmers and finswimmers do not move their hands nor swim that fast[1]) physics dictates that the diver generates a dynamic pressure of 0.5 bar or the equivalent of 5 meters of additional water depth.[2]
Besides water resistance standards to a minimum of 100 metres (330 ft) depth rating ISO 6425 also provides minimum requirements for mechanical diver's watches (quartz and digital watches have slightly differing readability requirements) such as:[3]
*The presence of a time-preselecting device, for example a unidirectional rotating bezel or a digital display. Such a device shall be protected against inadvertent rotation or wrong manipulation. If it is a rotating bezel, it shall have a minute scale going up to 60 min. The markings indicating every 5 min shall be clearly indicated.
The markings on the dial, if existing, shall be coordinated with those of the preselecting device and shall be clearly visible. If the preselecting device is a digital display, it shall be clearly visible.
The following items of the watch shall be legible at a distance of 25 cm (9.8 in) in the dark:
*time (the minute hand shall be clearly distinguishable from the hour hand); set time of the time-preselecting device;
*indication that the watch is running (This is usually indicated by a running second hand with a luminous tip or tail.);
*in the case of battery-powered watches, a battery end-of-life indication.
*The presence of an indication that the watch is running in total darkness. This is usually indicated by a running second hand with a luminous tip or tail.
*Magnetic resistance. This is tested by 3 expositions to a direct current magnetic field of 4,800 A/m. The watch must keep its accuracy to +/- 30 seconds/day as measured before the test despite the magnetic field.
*Shock resistance. This is tested by two shocks (one on the 9 o'clock side, and one to the crystal and perpendicular to the face). The shock is usually delivered by a hard plastic hammer mounted as a pendulum, so as to deliver a measured amount of energy, specifically, a 3 kg hammer with an impact velocity of 4.43 m/s. The change in rate allowed is +/- 60 seconds/day.
*Resistance to salty water. The watches under test shall be put in a 30 g/l NaCl (sodium chloride) solution and kept there for 24 hours at 18 °C to 25 °C. This test water solution has salinity comparable to normal seawater. After this test, the case and accessories shall be examined for any possible changes. Moving parts, particularly the rotating bezel, shall be checked for correct functioning.
*Resistance of attachments to an external force (strap/band solidity). This is tested by applying a force of 200 N (45 lbf) to each springbar (or attaching point) in opposite directions with no damage to the watch of attachment point. The bracelet of the watch being tested shall be closed.
*Marking. Watches conforming to ISO 6425 are marked with the word DIVER’S WATCH L M or DIVER'S L M to distinguish diving watches from look a like watches that are not suitable for actual scuba diving. The letter L indicates the diving depth, in metres, guaranteed by the manufacturer.
Diver’s watches for mixed-gas diving:
http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/general-discussion-forum/41441.htm
Στάλθηκε από: giorgos mg
« στις: Μάιος 27, 2011, 15:02:26 μμ »ευχαριστω φιλαρακι 
Στάλθηκε από: grecellin
« στις: Μάιος 27, 2011, 14:58:48 μμ »When commercial divers operate at great depths, they often spend prolonged hours in diving bells under pressure breathing a breathing gas mix like trimix or similar, that contain the gases helium or hydrogen. Since helium atoms are the smallest natural gas particles found in nature, these gas atoms are able to work their way inside the watch, around any o-rings or other seals the watch may feature. This is not a problem as long as the divers stay under pressure, but when the decompression stops during resurfacing aren't long enough, a pressure difference builds up between the trapped gas(es) inside the watch case and its environment. Depending on the construction of the watch case and crystal, this effect can cause damage to the watch, like making the crystal pop off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_release_valve
Αν δεν μπεις σε diving bells, κτλ, η βαλβίδα δεν προσφέρει κάτι.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_release_valve
Αν δεν μπεις σε diving bells, κτλ, η βαλβίδα δεν προσφέρει κάτι.
Στάλθηκε από: giorgos mg
« στις: Μάιος 27, 2011, 14:29:00 μμ »
Γιατι απλα δεν χρειαζεται
explain more βρε George
Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Μάιος 27, 2011, 01:47:29 πμ »πανω απο ποσα μετρα 'water ressistance' ενα ρολοι εχει βαλβιδα διαφυγης ηλιου -εκτος Seiko λογω ειδικων φλαντζων οπως γνωριζω-και γιατι το Doxa μου δεν εχει?
Γιατι απλα δεν χρειαζεται
Στάλθηκε από: giorgos mg
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 23:47:32 μμ »πανω απο ποσα μετρα 'water ressistance' ενα ρολοι εχει βαλβιδα διαφυγης ηλιου -εκτος Seiko λογω ειδικων φλαντζων οπως γνωριζω-και γιατι το Doxa μου δεν εχει?
Στάλθηκε από: DragonAce
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 23:23:12 μμ »Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 23:04:59 μμ »Έχεις δει σε ρολόι εκτός Ιαπωνίας το χαρακτηρισμό "diver's";
Αφου γνωριζεις περισσοτερα ενημερωσε μας.Δεν ξερω
Στάλθηκε από: Blackbird
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 22:53:40 μμ »Έχεις δει σε ρολόι εκτός Ιαπωνίας το χαρακτηρισμό "diver's";
Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 22:48:12 μμ »Ενας πινακας απο το wus
Για οτι αλλο,χαρα μου να το ποσταρεις
Για οτι αλλο,χαρα μου να το ποσταρεις
Στάλθηκε από: Blackbird
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 22:45:55 μμ » Ποιας εταιρείας;
Στάλθηκε από: george_
« στις: Μάιος 26, 2011, 21:29:52 μμ »