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Τεχνικά θέματα => Τεχνικά θέματα/ορισμοί => Μήνυμα ξεκίνησε από: nicolasg στις Αύγουστος 01, 2013, 14:27:14 μμ

Τίτλος: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: nicolasg στις Αύγουστος 01, 2013, 14:27:14 μμ
Μια διευκρίνηση ρε παιδια?

Τι ακριβώς διαφορά έχουν αυτοί οι όροι ?
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: nicolasg στις Αύγουστος 01, 2013, 15:04:52 μμ
Τα αρχικά ξέρω τι σημαίνουν,  τη διαφορά δεν καταλαβαίνω  :D
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: nicolasg στις Αύγουστος 01, 2013, 15:23:02 μμ
Αυτό πρώτη φορά το ακούω  ::)

Επίσης υπάρχει και το LNIB  ( like new in box ? )
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: marios_ch στις Αύγουστος 01, 2013, 16:18:45 μμ
New old stock (NOS), also backronymed as "new on the shelf" or "new off the shelf,"refers to obsolete equipment, or original parts for obsolete equipment, that have never been sold at retail.

The term refers to merchandise being offered for sale which was manufactured long ago but that has never been used. Such merchandise may not be produced anymore, and the new old stock may represent the only current market source of a particular item.

Although not an officially recognized accounting term, it is in common use in the auction and retail industries. For example, owners of antique vehicles seek NOS parts from specialized vendors that are needed to keep their automobiles, motorcycles, or trucks operational or in factory-original condition.


wikipedia
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: marios_ch στις Αύγουστος 01, 2013, 16:21:50 μμ
Τα υπολοιπα εχουν να κανουν λιγο πολυ με το ΤΖ grading system

Grading system

Please keep in mind that to be listed on a TimeZone sales board, a watch must be pre-owned and have been worn. Pre-owned means sold to a retail customer and no open papers.

LNIB

A pre-owned watch that has been worn, yet is in perfect condition. Accompanied by the factory box(es), tags and documentation. No alterations from factory-delivered condition. The warranty papers must be stamped to establish the authenticity and validity of the watch - TimeZone does not allow sales of watches with "open papers." No bracelet resizing or marks of any kind. 100%

Mint

A pre-owned watch that is in very nearly perfect condition. Signs of wear are visible with a low powered loupe. May be a watch that is in LNIB condition but not accompanied by the factory box(es) or documentation. May refer to an older watch that has been restored, so long as the restoration returned the watch to very nearly perfect factory original condition. Working perfectly, keeping excellent time, needs nothing. 98-100%

Near Mint

Showing very light signs of wear. Faint scratches on the case, bezel, bracelet or buckle are visible to the naked eye. Completely original in every way. Strap shows light use - may be bent or lightly creased, but not stained. Bracelet may be resized. The watch is working perfectly, keeping very good time and needs nothing. 93-97%

Excellent

Evidence of use is visible to the unaided eye. Scratches are light, but more numerous than "near mint". If the watch has been restored, all original replacement parts have been used. Strap clearly used but no stains. No dents or dings are detectable, and the bracelet has little wear. Working perfectly, needs no repair or service. 88-92%

Very good

The watch shows what might be considered normal wear by a careful owner who wore the watch regularly. Scratches are evident, but no nicks or dings. May have replacement parts and/or a high quality redial. Running and keeping good time, though may need minor regulation. A sound, attractive presentation overall. 83-87%

Good

Nothing fundamentally wrong with the watch, though it has quite obviously been used. Running and wearable, but may gain or lose a few minutes over 24 hours. Case may show a few dings, nicks, or deep scratches. May have a redial that is not up to high standards. May not have all original parts. 77-82%

Fair

Well used, may require service and/or restoration to be useable. May be running erratically. Dial, case, and other major components may not be original, but no pieces are missing. Even an untrained eye could tell the watch is worse for wear. Some might call it rough. 72-76%

Poor

Shows abuse, requires service and/or restoration. May have major cosmetic flaws, missing parts, may not run at all. A speculative piece - 'fixer-upper' would be too generous. Not junk, but requires lots of work to be made wearable. 66-71%

Scrap / Parts

A collection of parts that at one time may have been a functioning timekeeper. Now missing parts, may be rusted or corroded, not worth restoring. Most people would call it junk. 64% or worse.

Your watch description must expressly state one of the grades set out above, or an intermediate grade. If your watch does not fall precisely into one of the grades, you may use an intermediate indication such as "Good +" and provide a description of why an intermediate grade was used, for example "cosmetically rough, but just received a full mechanical overhaul, new strap, and runs perfectly."


http://people.timezone.com/library/tzguides/tzguides631730832192343750#GRADING (http://people.timezone.com/library/tzguides/tzguides631730832192343750#GRADING)
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 19:45:05 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Sol Invictus στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 19:58:13 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Θα έλεγα mint
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:06:01 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Θα έλεγα mint

κι εγώ ετσι πιστευω φιλε Ανδρέα  :)
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:08:44 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Θα έλεγα mint
βαρυ!
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:10:45 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Θα έλεγα mint
βαρυ!

τι εννοεις?
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:11:59 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Θα έλεγα mint
βαρυ!

τι εννοεις?
βαρυ ρολοι,μια χαρα ειναι !
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:18:00 μμ
αυτο που εντασσεται?

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Θα έλεγα mint
βαρυ!

τι εννοεις?
βαρυ ρολοι,μια χαρα ειναι !

οχι βρε,μια χαρα ειναι!
μικρο,ελαφρυ, ανετο
και με υπεροχο beadblasted
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Sol Invictus στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:36:56 μμ
οχι βρε,μια χαρα ειναι!
μικρο,ελαφρυ, ανετο
και με υπεροχο beadblasted

Γιώργο δικό σου είναι?  Για δώσε γενικά μερικές πληροφορίες.
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 20:58:06 μμ
οχι βρε,μια χαρα ειναι!
μικρο,ελαφρυ, ανετο
και με υπεροχο beadblasted

Γιώργο δικό σου είναι?  Για δώσε γενικά μερικές πληροφορίες.



δεν ξερω και πολλα,
cal 8123
5 jewels
θεωρειται απο τα σκυλια.

το συγκεκριμενο ειναι του '84
το bezel instert ειναι σαν hardlex
bezel unidirectional 60 klicks
μπομπε κρυσταλλο
φανταστικο beadblasted ολοκληρο,και το μπρασελε
κορωνα που δεν εξεχει καθολου και δεν ενοχλει.
lume λιγο και απο τα χρονια εχει εξασθενησει.
για τα χρονια του ειναι θα ελεγα στο 97%

της αδερφης μου για την ακριβεια.
απο περισυ το ειχα σταμπαρει σε ενα μαγαζι,
το πηρε πριν μια εβδομαδα.
ηθελε να παρει ενα ρολογακι και την επεισα να παρει αυτο.
ειναι μικρο,πολυ μικρο
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: nicolasg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 21:09:34 μμ
Πολύ όμορφο Γιώργο!!!
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 21:13:50 μμ
ποσο μικρο?
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 23:40:05 μμ
Θα το μετρησω αυριο  :)

 Txs Nikola, Rolex δεν ειναι αλλα τι να κανουμε  :P
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Αύγουστος 02, 2013, 23:41:45 μμ
Θα το μετρησω αυριο  :)

 Txs Nikola, Rolex δεν ειναι αλλα τι να κανουμε :P

κανε πετρα την καρδια! :P
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: Giorgos mg στις Αύγουστος 03, 2013, 13:08:58 μμ
case dimentions 3-9
39,8mm

bezel dimentions
38mm

crystal
25,5mm

lug to lug
37,2mm

heigh
10,5mm

bracelet
21mm to the case
18mm at clasp
Τίτλος: Απ: NOS / NIB / BNIB
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Αύγουστος 03, 2013, 13:29:01 μμ
38?καλα ειναι