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Ρολόγια => Υπόλοιπος κόσμος => Μήνυμα ξεκίνησε από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 04:17:47 πμ

Τίτλος: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 04:17:47 πμ
I have read that the watch originates from Hong Kong, but I have seen the automatic versions of the watch advertised as being made in Germany.


(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/74/dsc00479a.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/dsc00479a.jpg/)

The case is made of stainless steel. It has a brush matte finish. The finish is good but not great. The brushing is a tad light. The case measures 42 mm. The lug to lug is 46.5 mm and the lug width is 20 mm. It is 11.5 mm thick.


(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5041/dsc00488dt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/dsc00488dt.jpg/)

The case back is of the screw back design and the watch offers a water resistant rating of 20 ATM (tested).


crystal is mineral crystal.



(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5897/dsc00490j.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/dsc00490j.jpg/)


 ETA 804.114
10.5 ligne, 3.4 mm height
0 jewels
3 hands


http://www.horologycrazy.com/2009/10/kronos-british-sbs-satin-200m-military.html (http://www.horologycrazy.com/2009/10/kronos-british-sbs-satin-200m-military.html)



http://cgi.ebay.it/British-SBS-W10-Satin-Military-Dated-Divers-Watch-NEW-/400223613770?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item5d2f2fb34a#ht_742wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.it/British-SBS-W10-Satin-Military-Dated-Divers-Watch-NEW-/400223613770?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item5d2f2fb34a#ht_742wt_1139)



Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 14:07:44 μμ
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4404/kronos1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/kronos1.jpg/)

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3604/kronos2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/kronos2.jpg/)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1295/kronos4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/kronos4.jpg/)


Swiss ETA  2824-2 ,40mm,12mm,200 m,sapphire crystal


http://cgi.ebay.it/ITALIAN-SBS-AUTOMATIC-PVD-MILITARY-WATCH-OR-/120736197507?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c1c702b83#ht_870wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.it/ITALIAN-SBS-AUTOMATIC-PVD-MILITARY-WATCH-OR-/120736197507?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c1c702b83#ht_870wt_1139)
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: eisenberg στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 14:30:36 μμ

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3604/kronos2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/kronos2.jpg/)

Ο εσωτερικος δακτυλιος που μετραει μεχρι το 36,τί ειναι? :o
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 14:50:37 μμ
Ο εσωτερικος δακτυλιος που μετραει μεχρι το 36,τί ειναι?


δεν ξερω..μηπως ξερει ο ΒΒ,που ειναι του στρατιωτικου ρεπορταζ?
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: desmo16 στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 16:40:52 μμ
Κάποτε κοίταζα τον συγκεκριμένο πωλητή...
Αν εξαιρέσεις το lume και το λουράκι τα οποια είναι κακής ποιότητας,γενικά τα χαρακτηρίζουν VFM.
Πόσο μάλλον πριν χρονια που τα περισσότερα Quartz του κόστιζαν 65$ αλλά και τα αυτόματα πολύ κάτω από ότι είναι τώρα...!

Γνώμες "φορουμιστων"

-When I got it, I was floored by the color of the lume. It looks nothing like the lume in the pictures, but an even lime green color throughout. It's the I-can't-make-out-the-white-even-if-I-put-it-in-direct-sunlight kind of lime green. It looks like a throwaway $10 piece of crap with this lume color, which I think it is. (Hong Kong seller, probably got it for $10. The lume pip is the same color. The hour hand, by virtue of being so large, can be made out in the dark, whereas I have to be very optimistic in seeing lume from the hour indices, even in direct sunlight. The lume on our reps is far, far better, it pains me to say. The bezel is sloppy, and the insert is misaligned, of course.

-I don't think you can go wrong at that money, Ray has a good reputation

-I bought a PVD watch for that same guy a couple of years ago, with the same "swiss eta" quartz movement and put a pvd oyster bracelet on it... took it diving to Mexico on 2006 and it worked as a quartz watch should... excellent. It has taken lots of harm and it still running very strong, and as a daily beater works as a charm. So after 2 years of seldon use the watch has already paid itself and I don't care anymore if its movement is swiss, african or made in cybelia... it's a lot more accurate than my automatics and as a grab'n go watch does the job.

-There have been numerous reviews on Watchesu571, not always positive

-the seller is legit, quality is very nice and has a solid heft to it. I paid $60 inclusive of shipping for this one, it originally came with a nylon strap, so I changed it to an aftermarket solid link oyster. Keeps great time and makes an excellent beater.

-I just recieved a W10 from watchesu571 and think it is very nice for the price. The band sucks so I bought a waterborne on the way home from the post office for it. It seems to be a great beater or daily wearer.

-I consider it a good value and makes for a good beater watch. There is virtually no lume though. I don't know about it's water resistance but it does have a screw down crown. The bezel has nice solid clicks and no slop. Like many quartz watches, the second hand doesn't hit the tick marks on mine (much to my irritation, but hey it's $68). I'm sure the "Swiss ETA quartz" is a chinese version.

-I've had a number of Ray Wong's British diver clones over the years, all of them customized in some way. Different crystals, upgraded ETA quartz or automatics, including a couple that were fitted with tritium tube Marathon dials and hands. The case, crown, bezel and crystal are basic but solid pieces. Assembled carefully with good components, they can serve well as dive watches. A few years back, I had someone prepare two (brushed and PVD) watches with ETA 955 series Swiss made 7-jewel quartz movements (similar to what CWC uses in the real MOD-issued watches) and pressure test them for water resistance. Then I sent them to a good friend in the British Army, who lent them out to a few friends who used them for urban combat training, raider boat exercises, and some rather deep combat training dives. Both watches came through in great shape, with the users asking if they could buy them (I had them keep the watches). Hard to beat as an accurate, tough, inexpensive dive watches.

-I picked one of these up about 3months ago out of curiosity, I've just sold it on again (got as much as I paid for it). they are made to look like CWC dive watches witch are issued to Royal navy divers. For the price they are not a bad watch, lume isn't great but it's ok. They have screw down crown and back, they are sold as 200m dive watches but they have no water resistance rating on them, I did swim in mine without a problem. I also had the back off for a look, but to be honest I don't really know a lot about watch movements, it is marked swiss, the one I had lost about 7 seconds a week (not great for a quartz). also the second hand never got anywhere near the minute markers. The case of the watch was nice the bezel had no play in it (had a very nice click to it). for $75 thats about £37 they are ok. Personally I would pay a little more for one of these

...γενικότερα υπάρχουν αρκετές πληροφορίες για τον συγκεκριμένο seller και τα προϊόντα του,απλά αν τις παρέθετα όλες θα γέμιζε μια σελίδα ::)

Εγώ κοίταζα αυτό...

British SBS W10 PVD Plongeur "Military Divers"
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4899/img4079va.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/img4079va.jpg/)

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6959/img4085h.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/img4085h.jpg/)

(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/6466/img4098h.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/862/img4098h.jpg/)

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4779/img4102p.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/146/img4102p.jpg/)

(http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3572/img4091b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/860/img4091b.jpg/)

Overall I'm very impressed. I cannot find anything wrong with this watch and it's performance is amazing. Oh and it's "rated" to 200m and it does have a screw down crown and caseback. I tested it by dunking it in 2 ft of water for 2 hours in various positions and it's water tight at least, and with the solid feel of the screw down crown, I bet it would come close to the 200m rating if pressure tested.

In conclusion, if you're looking for a PVD military of SS military watch of this style with Plongeur hands or others (see his listings) I would highly recommend these watches and this seller.

Αναλυτικό review
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/new-arrival-pvd-plongeur-military-tons-pics-421689.html (http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/new-arrival-pvd-plongeur-military-tons-pics-421689.html)
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 16:42:54 μμ
Αρα ?προτεινεις?
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: desmo16 στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 16:49:31 μμ
Βάση αυτών που διαβάζω εγώ θα το αγόραζα...!
Καλά θα ήταν να τα χρέωνε ακόμα 65$ αλλα και 98$ πιστεύω ότι είναι καλά για αυτά που προσφέρει ;)

Τώρα η εμφάνιση είναι υποκειμενικό θέμα...εμενα μου αρέσουν παρα πολύ τα μαύρα ρολόγια...!
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: desmo16 στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 19:55:04 μμ
Εσύ george θα έπαιρνες...?
Aν θυμάμαι καλά έχεις ένα παρόμοιο Orsa...?
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 22:13:16 μμ
Το review ειναι οκ..

αν δεν ειχα αυτο,θα το αγοραζα


(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5251/derwkh030.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/derwkh030.jpg/)

Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: desmo16 στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 23:28:52 μμ
Super το Orsa...!
Η λεπτομέρεια που γουστάρω πολύ σε αυτά τα ρολόγια είναι η προστασία την κορόνας.

Το original σχέδιο είναι της CWC...?
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: Blackbird στις Ιούνιος 18, 2011, 23:46:10 μμ
Βέλος, τρίτιο (τάχα μ'), ΝΑΤΟ κωδικοποίηση.
Homage των CWC απ' ό,τι καταλαβαίνω.
Ο εσωτερικός δακτύλιος πιθανό να είναι μοίρες 0-360 όπου για οικονομία χώρου κόπηκε το τελευταίο μηδενικό.
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: desmo16 στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 00:03:02 πμ
Ήθελα να το ρωτήσω και αυτό...το βέλος τι σημαίνει...?

Edit:

A broad arrow or pheon is a type of arrow with a typically flat barbed head. It is a symbol used traditionally in heraldry, most notably in England, and later the United Kingdom to mark government property.

The broad arrow mark has been used over the years by the Office of Ordnance and Board to signify at first objects purchased from the monarch's money and later to indicate government property. With the demise of the Board in 1855, the War Department and today's Ministry of Defence continued to use the mark.

The broad arrow frequently appeared on military boxes and equipment such as canteens, bayonets and rifles...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad_arrow

Τώρα κατά ποσο ισχύει ακόμα αυτό... ::)
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: Blackbird στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 00:31:36 πμ
Το βέλος σημαίνει ιδιοκτησία του Βρετανικού στέματος.
Το βέλος στην πραγματικότητα είναι πόδι κορακιού.

Το ρολόι βεβαίως ούτε τρίτιο έχει, ούτε είναι του Βρετανικού στέματος.
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: desmo16 στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 00:45:48 πμ
Με πρόλαβες για λίγο... ;)
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 01:54:46 πμ
Super το Orsa...!
Η λεπτομέρεια που γουστάρω πολύ σε αυτά τα ρολόγια είναι η προστασία την κορόνας.

Το original σχέδιο είναι της CWC...?

οπως και να χει,εαν θες ενα τετοιου στυλ ρολοι ,ειναι φτηνα...αλλιως αγοραζεις το οριτζιναλ.
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 02:09:57 πμ
Βέλος, τρίτιο (τάχα μ')

Γιατι εχει το CWC?
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 02:29:37 πμ
Το ρολόι βεβαίως ούτε τρίτιο έχει, ούτε είναι του Βρετανικού στέματος.



Τα cwc,τα εχει ακομα επισημα ο Βρετανικος στρατος?
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: Blackbird στις Ιούνιος 19, 2011, 23:54:57 μμ
Βέλος, τρίτιο (τάχα μ')

Γιατι εχει το CWC?


Ναι, αν και πριν 1-2 χρόνια πέρασε στη Λουμινόβα και τώρα στο καντράν έχει το L σε κύκλο.




Το ρολόι βεβαίως ούτε τρίτιο έχει, ούτε είναι του Βρετανικού στέματος.


Τα cwc,τα εχει ακομα επισημα ο Βρετανικος στρατος?


Ναι.
Τίτλος: Απ: British SBS
Αποστολή από: george_ στις Ιούνιος 20, 2011, 00:00:29 πμ
Γιατι ειχα διαβασει ,οτι δεν εχουν πλεον συμβολαιο.Εχουμε αλλες πληροφοριες?