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« Απάντηση #60 στις: Δεκέμβριος 05, 2019, 21:57:02 μμ »
Μικρή ανεξάρτητη,πολλά τα εξοδα
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« Απάντηση #61 στις: Δεκέμβριος 05, 2019, 23:14:37 μμ »
Το είχα γράψει πριν μήνες,στο θέμα της εταιρίας
Ειχαμε σχολιασει αν θυμαμαι...

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« Απάντηση #62 στις: Δεκέμβριος 05, 2019, 23:18:17 μμ »
Το κοίταξα,είναι τον Ιανουάριο
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« Απάντηση #63 στις: Δεκέμβριος 19, 2019, 15:57:11 μμ »
Άντε να δούμε τι έχει να γίνει το 2020 μετά από αυτή τη κίνηση..

Swatch ticked off with Swiss anti-trust agency parts ban

ZURICH (Reuters) - Swatch will be blocked from selling some parts to watchmakers, ranging from Richemont’s Cartier to Chopard and Breitling, from next year in an escalation of a row between the world’s biggest watchmaker and Switzerland’s competition regulator.
While anti-trust agency WEKO stopped short of an outright sales ban, it said on Thursday it had barred deliveries of so-called movements, the components which keep expensive mechanical timepieces ticking, to Swatch (UHR.S) customers from January.
“Companies that thought they would get movements from Swatch Group next year now have to scramble to find replacements,” Kepler Cheuvreux analyst Jon Cox said.

The anti-trust action could compound the problems facing Swiss watchmakers, with competition from smartwatches rising and demand in the key market of Hong Kong, slowing.

“Is there really going to be a shortage of watch movements? I’m not sure. There’s also a gray market and brands have built inventories,” WEKO director Patrik Ducrey told Reuters.

WEKO’s ban is aimed at preventing Swatch from flooding the market with parts ahead of a final decision on the competitive landscape and Swatch’s obligations in mid-2020.

The agency made an exception for small and mid-sized companies which are customers of ETA, which is one of the biggest suppliers of watch movements and owned by the group best known for its colorful plastic watches.

A Swatch spokesman said ETA sold most of its movements to big customers and it expected it would not be able to deliver any next year as a result of WEKO’s action.

Shares in Swatch were down 1.8% by 1020 GMT.


TICKED OFF

Swatch gained its dominant position in movements when it was forged by the 1983 merger of the two main watchmakers to survive an influx of cheap battery-powered quartz watches from Asia.

A deal struck in 2013 at Swatch’s request had it phase out movement deliveries by the end of 2019 and it would have been free to supply whomever it wanted from 2020.

But WEKO feared ETA could have tried to win back customers from alternative movement suppliers Sellita, Soprod, STP or Ronda, a document accompanying its decision showed.

Swatch viewed these concerns as unfounded, the document which was seen by Reuters, said.

Sellita did not respond to requests for comment and Richemont declined to comment.

Even if WEKO succeeds in breaking Swatch’s dominant position in watch movements, the battle is likely to switch to Swatch’s monopoly on “assortments”, the centerpiece of each mechanical watch movement.

Swatch is obliged to deliver those to all its competitors, but the WEKO document states that Sellita complained in June that Swatch had not supplied it the desired assortments.

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« Απάντηση #64 στις: Δεκέμβριος 20, 2019, 04:50:23 πμ »
Καλά κάνει,είδε ότι χάνει χρήματα,αυτό που θα άξιζε πραγματικά να δούμε,αν και δύσκολο,θα ήταν την παραγωγή ξανά της lemania 5100
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« Απάντηση #65 στις: Δεκέμβριος 20, 2019, 16:30:17 μμ »
Συνέντευξη του Ceo της Patek Phillipe που λέει ότι δεν θέλει η εταιρία του να γίνει σαν τη Ρολεξ και επίσης ότι δεν είναι για πούλημα....


Patek Philippe's CEO Thierry Stern: "I can never be Rolex and I don't want to"

For some, it might feel as if, horologically speaking, it’s Patek Philippe’s world and other brands merely get to live in it.

Consider: not only did the family-owned Geneva company post record-breaking sales in the UK for 2019, but it topped this with a ten-room 1,800 square metre exhibition dedicated to celebrating its singular story in Singapore in September.

Now a biannual event, the Watch Art Grand Exhibition celebrated Patek’s past, present and future, pulling together examples from its own museum, the current collection and several unique pieces – on this occasion designed to mark Singapore’s bicentennial.
The exhibition, designed to run for three weeks to take advantage of the regional heft of Patek’s southeast Asian business, also showcased rare handcrafts and offered an up-close glimpse of the one-of-a-kind Calibre 89, the most complicated portable timepiece ever created.

To mark the occasion, Patek’s CEO, Thierry Stern, sat down with journalists for a brief but highly revealing conflab on the state of his business and the reaction to the runaway success of one of its watches in particular: the “grailiest” grail watch of them all, the Nautilus

The conversation began, however, with the reasons behind the staging of the Singapore expo (following on from smaller yet similar events in London and New York) and why a brand as famous and famously hard to get as Patek Philippe feels the need to take its show on the road...


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« Απάντηση #66 στις: Δεκέμβριος 20, 2019, 16:34:34 μμ »
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« Απάντηση #67 στις: Δεκέμβριος 20, 2019, 16:38:41 μμ »
Thierry Stern: Why? So you can travel! It’s cool, no? When you do something like this it’s more to educate people. It’s not about selling watches, it’s more about educating people who don’t have the chance to come to Basel[world] or to Geneva and we must do that. It’s too easy to say we’re very good, everybody knows us: it doesn’t work like that. You always have to create anticipation. And when you come into a country where you have a lot of collectors, it’s important to say thank you for their passion for Patek Philippe.
And collectors will also bring their friends, who perhaps doesn’t know Patek Philippe, and I think that’s important because it helps us to have new clients, people who know the name, but that’s it. And these collectors will be the our best tour guides. They know everything!
And today in this world where everything is digital, you also have to prove to people what you are able to do and here we have not only the pieces, but the watchmaker, the artisan, the whole history of Patek Philippe – this really is an educational programme from us. And when you do such an event I think people say, well, it’s really nice... and they might be a future client or a future watchmaker or a future engraver. We are able to give that opportunity by doing this.
GQ: Is the venue for this year’s event a strategic one from a business point of view?

TS: Southeast Asia is a pretty big market and China could could be the biggest, but I don’t want that, I want a balance. I have learned that from my dad and my grandfather. Try and have a balance everywhere. There is no way I will say to another market, “OK, I want your pieces for China” – because I can’t really increase [production], because quality and quantity don’t get along very well – I am not running after that. I don’t have any shareholders pushing me to do business just to make them happy

When I work it’s because I like it, I am proud to make the highest level of watches. And, to be frank, I have to pass this on to the next generation, to my sons, and if you are just focusing on money I’d just be passing them a bank account and that’s not how I want to educate my kids. I want them to have something beautiful that they can maintain and continue. That’s how I see it. I am maybe wrong, but I’m a family-owned business and I’m going to stick to that.

GQ: Given the demand for the Nautilus and now the Aquanaut, at what point does a waiting list discourage a customer?

TS: If you are asking me, I’d say I'd be able to wait one year, but if you asked me to wait six years, I’d say no. And that’s happening now sadly. If I was really courageous, I should stop Nautilus and say, “We’ve made enough now, shut it down.” Why? Because we are talking about one reference and I don’t want the Nautilus to raise up out of the collection and everyone buy Nautilus.

This is why I don’t want to increase the quantity. I could easily sell ten, 20 times what we are producing today, but I will kill the Nautilus in less than three years and I would be taking a huge risk: I would be focusing all the strengths of Patek Philippe on Nautilus. The aim is to see it on every wrist. You have to be vigilant and this is why you have to stay down on earth and not just run after money and the short term. Today it’s amazing how many people are running after short term and I don’t want to do that for Patek.
GQ: Still, you are losing customers by limiting supply...

TS: Every day we lose but look how bad that feels and how bad it is for the company. And that is why you are here today. I can never be Rolex, producing larger quantities, and I don't want to. We’d be successful but we wouldn’t be Patek Philippe.

GQ: Would you ever consider buying back your own watches in order to resell?

TS: This is something that is quite logical, because we have been producing beautiful watches for many years and the vintage market is very important – maybe $5 billion to $10bn annually. And this is happening for two reasons: you have the younger generation who like vintage watches and they are sometimes cheaper [at auction] and then you have collectors who are happy to buy rare, complicated watches.

Today we don’t have the answer. Many retailers are trying to buy them back to resell them but it isn’t as simple as they say. And this is maybe the strength of PP – we can fix all our watches since 1839, but to fix all of them I’m going to have to increase the number of people in our service department. I like that, but it’s not an easy problem to solve. So at the moment we are trying to understand the process. It’s a difficult decision to take: should I handle it myself or should I do it with someone else? I don’t know. That’s the honest answer. But it’s important. This is what I do know.

GQ: There were recent reports that Patek Philippe might be for sale. And yet you have stated it is not. Do you find the rumours a distraction?

TS: Ever year I have somebody ask if we are for sale. Every year. So it’s quite normal that people talk about it, but it’s not something I will do. Why should I sell it? I have fun, it works pretty well and, to be frank, you sell it for $5bn, $10bn, $15bn, I don't know, $2bn... what do I do? I travel the world for a year.

The next year I ask a friend and we go around again. The next year they say no because they are working. I meet a lot of people like this and each of those people said it was fantastic, but after two or three years they start their business again. And I have a fantastic business I can perpetuate it with the next generation, it’s perfect
GQ: Can you see Patek Philippe ever selling online?

TS: I believe that it’s still a pleasure to try your watch and talk to the retailer. It’s part of the beauty of life. Of course, we could sell through the internet, all of us – we don’t need to stand up, we can order food and drink and work and do everything from the internet. But I don’t see the fun in that. When you buy a product like a Patek Philippe, you need to try it and you need to speak to the salesperson with the knowledge and that’s a pleasure. It’s what I call life. When I see people sitting all day and ordering everything through the internet, that’s not life. 

Why do we have museums? You can see a picture on your iPad. But it’s a pleasure. So as long as we have good retailers who are able to explain Patek to you, then we shall work with them

GQ: How would you summarise the Patek Philippe customer?

TS: Someone who appreciates good work, fine items and respects credibility. Over all these years, and in every market, we have credibility and we have strong values. There are different [customer] profiles but the credibility and the lasting value is always important to them



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« Απάντηση #68 στις: Δεκέμβριος 20, 2019, 16:39:29 μμ »
Αλέξανδρε, όταν αρχίζει τις δικαιολογίες,κάτι υπαρχει
Γιώργο διάβασε τη συνέντευξη,την βρίσκω πολύ ενδιαφέρον. Δεν νομίζω ότι λέει δικαιολογίες,τον βρίσκω ειλικρινή.

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« Απάντηση #69 στις: Δεκέμβριος 20, 2019, 16:40:01 μμ »
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« Απάντηση #70 στις: Ιανουάριος 19, 2020, 00:25:13 πμ »
Watchmaking Legend Jean-Claude Biver Awarded French Legion of Honor

Those in the know in the watch industry have heard the stories about the legendary Jean-Claude Biver. He is credited with breathing life into brand after brand over his four decades in the industry. He founded Blancpain as a brand that will only make mechanical watches —back in 1982 when the Swiss watch industry was still reeling from the quartz-watch crises. He has headed brands such as Omega, TAG Heuer and more, and has saved many a brand from self-destruction. The man responsible for bringing Hublot to all-new heights thanks to his visionary repositioning of the company more than a decade-and-a-half ago, Biver is known to talk about love, passion and forgiveness, and speaks on college and business circuits around the world.
Now, the French government honors his contributions to the development of the French and Swiss watch industries by awarding the 70-year-old icon the “Chevalier de l’Ordre National de la Légion d’Honneur” (Legion of Honor Award).
The only man in the industry to hold the title “Non-Executive President” at LVMH, Biver was presented the award at an official ceremony this past week, where Frederic Journes, the Ambassador of France to Switzerland, bestowed the honors. Biver is known to be a passionate and emotional speaker, but his acceptance speech was even more tear-jerking as he — in typical Biver style — gave credit to all of the people who made the journey with him.
“It is a great honor for me and truly gratifying to receive this recognition from France, the cradle of the idea of luxury. First and foremost, I would like to dedicate this medal and the recognition it represents to my teams who, since 1979, have followed and supported me throughout my career and have made such a success possible through their work, skills, experience, vision, and know-how. My profound thanks go to everyone here with us today, and especially to those who made up my inner circle and stood by me every step of the way on this adventure, to the veterans who came on board starting in 1979 and to the younger generations from 1993 onward.”
As a journalist in the watch industry for 35 years, I have had the great pleasure of watching Biver and his many successes over the years, and I am so grateful for that. Being able to call him a friend and colleague all these years has been personally rewarding. Every time I sit with him, whether for an interview or a cup of coffee, I learn something. I always walk away inspired.
I was there in Baselworld when he launched Blancpain. Few knew at the time that he didn’t have the money for big hotels, and so was sleeping in a Volkswagon camper outside of the Basel train station. There were other stories, as well. Some more personal than I would want to share, but today, he recalls those memories proudly, like a badge of honor.
Biver is also an avid watch collector, and, in fact, a tiny portion of his collection was recently on display in Geneva during a Phillips in Association with Bacs & Russo auction. He personally walked me through some of his favorites, and recalled how being a watch lover helped him open his eyes to innovation in product and marketing. Recently, during the Dubai Watch Week Forum, Biver wowed the audience with his genuine passion and honesty, and aptly referred to the watch as “An eternity on the wrist.”
An avid watch collector, Biver says his eyes are open to all sorts of innovation, which gives him a strong advantage when considering product and marketing direction. “I am open to all opinions and ideas because I love watches. This is a great advantage,”

“One hundred percent, I believe my success comes from my passion,” says Biver. “My guiding light is called love. The Beatles said ‘All you need is love.’ Love is not just about two people; love is 360 degrees. If you have passion, you have love. And if you have love, you have respect because that is an expression of love. This means I respect myself, I respect my people, and I respect my competition and my suppliers. And to forgive is an act of love. You need to be able to forgive mistakes, because we all make mistakes and they are a learning process.”
The thing about Biver is that all of life is a learning process. He says often, “If you stop learning then you are not alive.” Congratulations to this incredible man who has brought the Swiss watch industry so much, who has helped others think in a different light, and who has been a great colleague and mentor.


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« Απάντηση #71 στις: Ιανουάριος 19, 2020, 00:31:11 πμ »
 :(
Ο σιωπών συναινεί.

Του Ξέρξου γράψαντος ''πέμψον τά όπλα'' αντέγραψε, "μολών λαβέ".

The only difference between men and boys is the price of the toys.

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« Απάντηση #72 στις: Ιανουάριος 19, 2020, 00:32:08 πμ »
Τι Γιώργο;;

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« Απάντηση #73 στις: Ιανουάριος 19, 2020, 00:42:46 πμ »
Τι Γιώργο;;

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Στεναχωριέμαι που ξοδεύεις τόσο χρόνο να βρείς, επιμεληθείς, αναρτήσεις τέτοια κείμενα, και πραγματικά έχω την απορία. Τα διαβάζει κανείς ?

Εγώ, που έχω διαβάσει στην ζωή μου 389 Εθνικες βιβλιοθήκες, λόγω επαγγέλματος και συνεχούς αναζήτησης / επιμόρφωσης, τα βλέπω και (....με πιάνει σύγκρυο )

Οι άλλοι, τι άποψη έχουν ?

Και δεν προσπαθώ να σε απογοητεύσω / αποθαρρύνω. Μια άποψη λέω.  :)

Ο σιωπών συναινεί.

Του Ξέρξου γράψαντος ''πέμψον τά όπλα'' αντέγραψε, "μολών λαβέ".

The only difference between men and boys is the price of the toys.

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« Απάντηση #74 στις: Ιανουάριος 19, 2020, 00:45:31 πμ »
Μια χαρά είναι, αυτα
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